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ChrissieD

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Hi ladies,

How long do you REALLY have to wait to color your hair after chemo?  I read at least 6 months or it could fall out.  As much as I don't like the curly gray I am so thankful it is growing back in and would not want it to fall back out again.  My last treatment was 2/23.  Is it really too soon? 

Thanks for your feedback!
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Chrissie I colored my hair as soon as it was long enough to do it  - um about a half inch long!!!!
GO FOR IT!


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Hi hairy friends.   I bet my hair is long enough to ditch the wig, but I am not going to yet because it is thin in the crown area.  See-through.  Silvery on top, darker on the sides.   The color actually looks nice, but it is the connotations!  I trimmed the hairline a while ago.   The back is pretty thick and I trimmed that, too.  I am thinking that if I colored it, it would show the thinness even more (contrast).   Will the color give it some body?  I would prolly use something not too toxic on my virgin hair.  Henna makes a lovely sheen, but what a mess.   

Did you do the deed, Chrissie?


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Chrissie,

I was trying to hold out for six months too (must've read the same article) but I caved at about three!! I used a brush to apply the color to try to keep it off my scalp and the root area. The color didn't take completely, which I'd read about too, but at least I was 'back in black'!! That was about a year ago, and now my hair is healthy, thick and seriously wavy.

I second Gina: go for it!

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My hair was in two styles my entire life...pixie cut, or long.  Before chemo, I cut it myself, a little bit every day.  It was a non-descriptive mousy light brown, with a few gray hairs, & "Blondie Streaks" from the sun. I wore it long in a braid on top of my head to keep the hair out off of my face, eyes & mouth.  Like so many things in life, "when it's gone, you miss it", you want it fixed, returned, like a boomerang!  Oh, the hair...

After chemo, it had/hasn't really grown much.  I looked & felt better than in preceeding years.  Now, I wonder if the cancer may have been causing fatigue.  I began cutting the hair, because like Cinderella's gowns, it was changing colors weekly.  It grew in bizarrely, odd lengths, strange directions, and the curls were something to behold~ not my ordinary "flat-head".  As I learned to enjoy snipping the strands, I discovered new styles.  One day, I found a hair coloring in the pharmacy that was non-toxic, no aluminum or ammonia.
For weeks, the box winked at me, "Hey you, do something with that dirty dishrag you call ~ hair "".".  "Not by the hair of my chinny-chin-chin!"  I worried about toxic consumer reports.  Finally,  I cautiously opened the box, contemplating this next step.  The light colors are supposed to contain fewer harsh chemicals, so I went with a no-brassy dark blond.  The white, black, brown, silver, Gray, and Blondie circles were looking really odd...and the thin spots, unsightly.  So I bit the bullet and dumped the stuff on my head.  What a mess.  It basically blended the colors to look natural.  It also gave my hair body, and a nice feel.  It felt more like "conditioner" than hair dye.   For a while, people were asking me where and what "salon" I visited.  I said...uh, ummmmm, "Indi"-pendent"???.  

  

Was it Pity?  I received more kind words & compliments the first two years following chemotherapy (a first, in my entire life).  The cut was "arty" looking, since I pretty much let it do whatever it was going to doo-doo.  What a doo! Here are some Alternative Hair Styles for GIRLS~
 


From 2008~ I like... who knew it was "high-style"?  Chemo-cuts...lol



There are cool women at No Surrender who know "HAIR" and Make-up...not naming names...  GINA  is one of the best!

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Indi    




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I think it doesn't matter, but the outcome of the color might be different, mine was 'copper' yet I asked to NOT put any red in it....yikes......


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Calico,

Yes, you are correct...I forgot to mention the follow-up color rinse application.  It actually lightened my hair, and when the "colors" washed out, it was the color of a tarnished penny.  My scalp, neck, ears, and other areas began to itch and developed a terrifying rash.  My hair & skin grew in coarsely, but fine.  I am having other medical problems and came to the conclusion there is a bio-meta-physical-chemical imbalance.  Searching for the cause has been a nightmare.  Two days ago, the oncology doctor (and assistant) told me "Medicine is not fool-proof, and you (meaning ME), may never receive an "accurate diagnosis" regarding these symptoms and possible "Chemotherapy-induced illnesses" due to a compromised immune system "before, during, and after" the chemotherapy and radiation.  My Vitamin D was almost zero, I am anemic, and there are significant "Chrystal's" in my blood, urine, and mucous membranes.  Naturally, the hair and skin are affected, and no matter what product I use, the organisms seems to turn my hair and skin to rust, sulfur, and iron-slime. 

The Oncologists assigned a new PCP, a Gastroenterologist, a Dermatologist, and I am continuing to received Psychological Counseling for Post-Cancer Therapy's Impact on my physical, emotional, mental, and quality of life set-backs.  I have this ability to see the humorous side of life, and almost nothing "gets me down-and-out".  This one is on the verge.  It's frightening, lonely, impersonal, and the feeling of abandonment is disarming, alarming, rather like "organized chaos".  I'm not sad, glad, mad, bad, or sad...I'm pissed-off!  SOMEBODY!  What the "F" is this?  Give me a subtle hint, please!

At least when I could do the "hair, make-up & clothes", I felt alive.  I don't think I'm crazy, but the Headaches, Fatigue, Itching, and other things like my hair turning copper, green, burnt yellow...and the rashes, have made life difficult.  All I really want is to feel better, and put a little zing into my daily life.  The color rinses, make-up, new clothes, and exercise were a big help.  Now...parasites have ended all of that, and I continue to search for answers.  I  can only pray to find one, one physician, and/or "one" Medical Professional who believes in me.  So far, family, friends, doctors, and my DH all think I've become deranged (de-oranged, the hair...ha, ha, ha). 

I am fine.  I am not ingesting any meds except for Vitamin D and a multi-vitamin.  I can even accept mentally unstable.  Without a proper diagnosis, I go around in circles.  Finally, at least I'll be seeing some specialists, who may know, or at least help to find out what is the "root cause" of my symptoms.

I know it is NOT the hair coloring...and thank goodness for You-Tube and my friends here.  I'd really be a wreck, otherwise.

I didn't mean to hijack this post.  It was a compelling question I've been unsure about in the past couple of years. 

Love you, Calico.  Thanks for the insightful words.  Wish I could say exactly what I'm trying to say in a line or two.  My mother always told me, "Empty Cans make the loudest noise".   I never really thought about it until now.  I should have kept my BIG MOUTH shut.  Oh well, too late.   It's been a life-long problem, along with this "hair" on my head.

Love,
Indi

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Indi,
have you ever been checked for auto immune diseases like lupus with all the skin rashes etc.?
I would make my body as unfriendly for parasites as possible, living of ginger and garlic lol (hope that made you smile, not wanting to make fun of you of course!!!)
So sorry you are not getting better, I have no wisdom. Hopefully your derm dr will find a way!


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I have found that coloring it, and maybe throwing in a few highlights makes the hair look thicker and fuller. Mine was such a gross color i had to do something!

I have never used henna- don't even know how!

Indi, what great clips! I love them. I hope you find out what is making your skin the way it is. I was thinking, you have that old farmhouse- maybe there is something in your water supply to the house? Maybe you need a filter system?

I am just so glad you are back here!


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I hated what my hair looked like once it started coming in. Prior to BC, my hair was highlighted, and slightly curly. Once it started growing in - OMG - almost black and very VERY kinky.

I could not stand it and about 6 months out I attempted to highlight it. It did not help much, as my hair still looks like a Brillo Pad - only now - with blond highlights. I am hoping another trim might cut off this dry, kinky mess and maybe another highlight attempt will make it better. - Jean


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Hello Hair club for women -
I am getting a short style-cut in late Aug. and color then. 5 months since last chemo...
I am getting accustomed to the short hair. It needs to fill out some more and grow in some places more than others in order to get a style without looking like I'm going into the military...I can't wait.
My DH pinched some of my hair between his finger's and tugged at it and said "It doesn't come out" I smiled and said "I know..."
a second later he laughed and said "you were bald." I laughed and thought, wow, I was for a long time and now....it seems like long ago. And it really wasn't. Stopped wearing a hat in April.

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If your hair is uncontrollable, I HIGHLY recommend getting a Keratin Straightening Treatment. I did it when it was in the brillo pad stage and it made my hair soft, straight and look LONGER. It lasted five months. I had it done a second time too.

Also- for encouragement- I was able to do something this fourth of July that I couldn't even DREAM of doing last year....
Wear my hair in a ....
drumroll.....

A PONYTAIL!


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An all-American pony tail!  That is awesome Gina.  I went wig-less to my son's cook-out, actually no wig at all for the long weekend, but I put it back on for work.  I am like Stacey - still too sparse to feel it is my best public hair quite yet.  Need to feel 'on' at work - they laid another really nice engineer off today. 

Though I did go to the corner drug store and got some "natural ash brown" once a month stuff.  It did cover the gray, but since my hair is so fine, it seems to have made it kind of stiff, even though I only had it in for 10 minutes. 

Real henna from the health food store is cool.  It is a ground plant - a powder that comes in a lot of shades.  I used to use a camomile-blonde color.  You mix the powder with warm water, and glop it on your head.  Then wrap it with plastic, and a towel - ideally get some heat on it somehow and leave it on for a half hour.  Then when it comes time to wash it out,  it really looks gross (think hand-washing a diaper...) But your hair is very shiny and strong.  I am still taking the biotin - my nails have been growing all along, some of them did get pretty weird, but that is growing out.  

It would be interestimg to know exactly what the chemicals do to your follicles to make your hair grow out differently! 


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Hi ladies,

A ponytail Gina, that's awesome!! Encouraging to know that my 1/2 inch curly locks will gain some length. 

I finally did it!  Not quite what I was going for but good enough.  I had hoped for blonde and ended up with light brown/red.  Still have all the grey though just not as noticable because the rest of the hair is lighter.  Maybe I did not leave it on long enough?  How I thought I would really end up with light blonde with no peroxide in the color was silly.  Oh well, better coloring next time.

Have a great day!  I am off to work.
Chrissie


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I can feel the hair on the back of my neck and can barely put it behind my ears....I'm almost ready for my first cut and color. I'll post a picture when I do. It'll be late August...
I CAN'T WAIT!!!!!!!

It'll be little while before I can do the ponytail, but I'm looking forward to each little milestone.

I can put a little clip in. I use my niece's. hahaha!!!!
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Chrissie! Add some highlights! Why not go whole hog!
I am so glad you took the plunge!!

Stacy you will get there! I promise!


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I know people have bigger problems than this, but my hair is sticking out.    I have tried a few products to make it lie flat, but it seems to make it stiff and stick out more after it dries.  It is still very fine and short except in the back.  I love the short cut in Indie's video -  
   There must be something in her hair to make it "gather" instead of frizzzzz -

I have had so many bad haircuts in my life, I cut it myself, too - but there is nothing like being fussed over while you relax in a chair - no $$ for fripperies right now.  Love, Mary

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 Hi Mary!
 
So happy to see your post!  And the hair thing is currently driving me crazy because I need to do something, and suffer from "Hair Salon Anxiety".   There is nothing about a hair salon I like; the odors, chemicals, lights, mirrors, noise, hot flashes, nausea;  less stress to cut, coif, and clip my own hair.  If it looks like I used an Angle Grinder to trim, so be it.   Beauty Parlors (for me), are like visiting the doctor's office, having a Mammogram, MRI, CAT & PET Scans, and the Dentist Chair.  

Something happens, losing my senses, visuals, hearing, taste, and smell;  Id mutates to Odd,  incapacitating my thought process and the ability to get up and walk-out.  Common sense tells me to run and hide, but I am reduced to feeling like the kid in the corner wearing a dunce cap.   The concept of using intimidation to overwhelm someone into buying into their notion of "what's right & what's wrong", is a power-play I prefer to avoid.  It happens at the doctor's office, beauty salons, and dentist office.  There must be some "good ones" out there somewhere that I have yet to encounter.  
 
Years ago,  my long hair needed "something", in preparation for a fancy wedding.  My "fashion-conscious" SIL treated me to an appointment with her "posh" hair dresser guru.  I agreed to a trim, highlights & a perm.   Warning, sirens, red lights flashing:  the King of Kurls made snide comments, called my hair "puny", &  stuck a thick rubber glove on my head and proceeded to pull hairs out of the little holes while my head felt like it was going to pop off, eyes watering from the pain & the chemicals,  followed by perm-chemicals, tight rollers, and seeing frizzles for the first time in my life.  After the Torture Session my hair was puffy, similar to cotton candy, resembling the wife of Frankenstein's monster, I had "BIG HAIR".  Days later,  my hair  had the consistency of glass shards, tangled fishing wire, a rusty Brillo pad; hair broke, fell out, burned & itched.  I cut it off, and that was the last time I let anyone touch my scalp.     The "Hideous Hair Nightmare"  required years of recovery from the horrifying experience.  Self esteem is our # 1 most important Survival Tool.  It's why HAIR , bald, or head fashion says so much about what's going on in our minds & hearts.  It's why the first questions after Breast Cancer Diagnosis are "How long do I have to live?", and "Will I lose my hair?".  Sad, but true.  
 
Here are some tips on using hair products, followed by "How to Cut & Style Short Hair".  I love Julian...  he could pour hot bacon grease and India Ink on my hair...no problem, I'd be smiling.    The model looks happy ~ Julian is her hair-stylist!



Yes, yes, yes!  Take me to NYC and Julian!  I love his voice, and accent perfecto?!   Wouldn't it be fun to be a fashion model for a day?  Some of the "perks" are Hair-dressers who are also "artists".  Wouldn't it be fun to gather everyone at No Surrender and meet at a swanky hotel on Long Island, or somewhere along the shore?  Plan a group trip (lower rates?), go to NYC, have Lunch, a beauty "make-over", (feeling like Dorothy, the Lion, Tin-man, Straw-head & Toto, singing tra-la-la-la while having hair, face, skin,  nails, pedicure, pretty-fied), shop NYC's underground, purchase some jewelry at Tiffany's, followed by a dressing up in evening-wear, dining in a 5 star restaurant, visit the galleries, museums, the sights, see a show, and finish the trip via painting the town (NYC)  PINK!  A girl can dream... lol, and if she's got a spare billion in the bank, make those dreams come true...oh, Julian!!

How to Cut Hair at Home, easy...please click on parts 2, 3, etc.

One more about Henna...excellent information about what, how, when, and odor...(good info on this site)


Love,
Indi


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