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1rarebird

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I know the question of using flax seed (ground or oil) has been discussed at length at this forum and elsewhere.  I won't rehash the debate over whether flax is good or bad for breast cancer folks, but I personally have come down on the side that believes ground flax seed is  probably good as long as it is not consumed in excess.  And that leads to my question: how much is a good amount on a daily basis to eat?

At Caring4cancer I have read that no more than two tablespoons of ground flax should be consumed.  They don't state why. I have also read that 25 grams of ground flax seed, or 3 tablespoons, is the right amount since it is what was consumed in a Canadian clinical study that found a very significant benefit in tumor size reduction in a small number of patients who were given flax  pre-surgery. 

So I wonder if there is an optimal amount of flax seed we might consider eating.

Phil

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Hi Phil, My naturopath had me follow the Breast Cancer diet and suggested 3 tablespoons per day.  That being said, you have to balance that with fat intake. Flax has high fat content (I forget how much is in the 3 TBLS) but when following a low fat diet the ground flax eats up a lot of the daily grams. 

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Thanks, Chrissie---

I've learned a little more about flax content since my first post.  I just read on a box of Milled Flax Seed (100%) made by Hodgson Mill that they consider one serving to be two table spoons, and each serving has 5 grams of fat of which 2600 milligrams is the Omega 3 oil variety.  It also has 4 grams of fiber per serving and contains 60 calories per serving. 

If my math is correct, then three table spoons would give 7.5 grams of fat with 3900 mg. of Omega 3 and 90 calories. 

So I guess my question can now be restated as how many milligrams of Omega 3 per day from flax seed is recommended. 

Of course just looking at the Omega 3 content doesn't address the amount of beneficial lignans that flax is suppose to contain. Gina has told us before that these lignans are important because the help reduce estrogen levels by adsorption and excretion processes as well as to influence estrogen metabolism in a beneficial way.

Phil

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Hi Phil and Chrissie,
I take between two and three tablespoons of ground flax seeds in my cereal a day.

Phil, for the lignans benefit, they reduce the Epidermal Growth Factor Receptors that are found in Triple Negative cancer cells. (Her2 as well)
I was TNBC the first time I had cancer in 2001. Ground flaxseeds were my weapon against it.  My second cancer in 2007 was ER+. I found out as an ER+ person, I should stay away from the flax oil because it can interfere with AIs. However, the amount of ground flaxseeds are safe for ER+ and still kick  the butt of the TNBC cancer cells.

Chrissie, I am on a low-fat diet, too. I try to stay under 30 mgs a day. I get my fat from the flaxseeds and olive oil. No animal fats.

"They" say that the best way to get Omega 3s is through diet and not supplementation, so I guess we are all on the right track!




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Gina, thanks--That info on the Epidermal Growth Factor Receptors in TNBC and Her2 is good to learn.  The Her2 applies to me. 

Here is another flax question. 

I read elsewhere that timing (when you eat the flax seed ) should be such as to avoid taking it with the daily Tamoxifen pill, for those on Tamoxifen. Apparently it has something to do with the high fat content of the flax dissolving the Tamoxifen in a less than optimal way. The recommendation said that the Tamoxifen is then not completely absorbed by the body.  The recommendation was not just regarding flax seed or oil, but any high fat content meal.  So I guess that could include taking Tamoxifen with olive oil too.  But I have only come across that recommendation once and was wondering if you (or anyone else) has heard of this.

Like you, I take my flax with cereal at breakfast which is also when I take my Tamoxifen.  If there is something to this timing issue, then I will need to change that schedule.

Phil
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Maybe you could have a yogurt as a snack after dinner and sprinkle it in that?
I know I have to space certain meds apart... like my synthroid... from the dairy I eat. I really only have dairy in the AM so I take the synthroid before bed.
It is really amazing just HOW MUCH we have to know just to make sure our meds work! I don't hear any of our docs sharing these tips with us!
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When I consume flax, my body is happy.
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